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15th June, 2014: Folkestone Express and Folkestone Herald Reports for 1930 Added

Dickenson`s Burton Brewery, Tontine Street



Folkestone Observer 22-6-1866

Advertisement:

Burton Brewery
Tontine Street, Folkestone

Messrs. C. & A. Dickenson having taken the above brewery, beg to inform the public they have had the different waters analysed by Professor Taylor, of Guy`s Hospital, and find they are devoid of all deleterious matter; possessing qualities beneficial to general health; confirming the well known fact that Folkestone is one of the most healthy places England possesses. Finding the waters contain every requisite for Ales and Stouts, they have entered into arrangements with Mr. Watson Martin, son of the eminent manager and brewer at Messrs. Ind, Coope & Co.`s Brewery, Burton on Trent, and pupil to Mr. H. Beaman, who was for some time Brewer at Messrs. Bass & Co`s. Messrs. C. & A. D. earnestly solicit a share of the favours of the inhabitants of Folkestone and the neighbourhood, and will in return use their utmost endeavours to supply them with Ales not to be surpassed by any brewers in the county, and Stouts equal to any house in London, at the most moderate prices.

CASH PRICE LIST

                                                                                                                                             s  d
X                                  Mild Beer                                                                                   1  0 Per Gallon
XX                                Mild Ale                                                                                     1  3      “
XXX                              Strong Ale                                                                                 1  6      “
XXXX                            Strong Ale                                                                                 2  0      “

P.A. No. 1                      Pale Ale                                                                                     1  0      “
P.A. No. 2                      Pale Ale                                                                                     1  6      “

P.                                 Porter                                                                                       1  0      “
S.S.                              Single Stout                                                                               1  6      “
D.B.S.                           Double Brown Stout                                                                    1  9      “

                                    Family Pale Ale                                                                          1  0      “
                                    East India                                                                                  1  8      “

Folkestone Chronicle 22-12-1866

Monday December 17th:- Before R.W. Boarer Esq.

William Barker was brought up in custody charged with being on the premises of Messrs. Dickenson, brewers, for an unlawful purpose.

P.C. Swain deposed that he was on duty in the lower part of the town that morning at one o`clock. In Tontine Street he saw a man loitering opposite the brewery, who scaled the gates. Sergeant Newman coming along about ten minutes after, the two constables got over, and found the prisoner pretending to be asleep in an outhouse. Knowing that prisoner had been working at the brewery, witness went to call one of the firm up, before they disturbed him. Mr. Martin came back with witness, and as they could get no satisfactory answers from him, he was given into custody. The prisoner was drunk. There was nothing missing from the yard. On searching him 2s was found in his pocket.

Watson Martin, superintending the brewery for Messrs. Dickenson, said he was called up by the last witness and accompanied him to the brewery at half past one that morning. Found the prisoner asleep in an outhouse, where straw is kept, the door of which was not fastened; made the prisoner get up, but he could not tell why he was there, or what he was doing, and gave him into custody. Prisoner had been in the employ of Messrs. Dickenson, as engineer, but was discharged a month since for drunkenness; was afterwards put on as labourer, but discharged on Saturday last for the same thing. Messrs. Dickenson had no wish to be severe, but if the case could be reduced to one of vagrancy they would be satisfied with the infliction of a few days` imprisonment as a warning to others.

Prisoner said he had taken too much beer, and did not know what he was about. He got fastened out of his lodgings, and got over there to sleep it off.

The prisoner was discharged.

Note: Dickenson took over the Atlas Steam Brewery, Tontine Street

Folkestone Observer 22-12-1866

Monday December 17th:- Before R.W. Boarer Esq.

William Barker was charged with being on the premises of Messrs. Dickenson, in Tontine Street, for an unlawful purpose, on the morning of the 17th instant.

P.C. Swain said: This morning about one o`clock I was on duty in the lower part of the town. I saw the prisoner get over the gates of Mr. Dickenson`s brewery, and go into the yard. I went up, but could hear no-one. Sergeant Newman then came up and about ten minutes afterwards we got over the gates and found the prisoner in one of the outhouses, apparently asleep. Knowing the prisoner had previously worked for Dickenson`s I went and called one of the firm up. The outhouse is a place where they keep straw. It was not locked. The prisoner was not sober at the time. Mr. Martin came and said he (prisoner) was not working for the firm now. We then woke him up and asked him what he was there for, but he was quite stupefied, and said he did not know why he was there. I found 2s 9 1/2d in his pockets. Mr. Martin then gave the prisoner into custody.

William Martin deposed – I accompanied last witness about half past one this morning to Messrs. Dickenson`s brewery. I found prisoner asleep in an outhouse where we keep straw. I woke him up and asked him what business he had there, and he said one of our sellarmen ahd told him to be here. He had been in our service and we discharged him on Saturday last for being intoxicated. I said I was not satisfied with his explanation and gave him into custody.

Prisoner said he had had too much to drink. He did not go there with any intention to do harm; he went in there to lie down and get a sleep.

Mr. Boarer: I can`t make out if you were drunk, as the policeman says you were, how you could have got over the wall in such an active way.

Prisoner repeated that he had had too much to drink. He had been drinking at two or three different houses, and when he went home the door was locked and he could not get in.

Mr. Boarer, after some consideration, said: William Barker, there is some doubt as to what your purpose was there, and I think I ought to follow the rule of giving you the benefit of that doubt. It is a very awkward affair. You are discharged.

Folkestone Express 30-1-1869

County Court

Monday, January 25th: Before W.G.S. Harrison Esq.

Dickenson & Co. v Woolford: This was a balance of account amounting to £6 13s. 5d. Ordered to be paid in three monthly instalments

Folkestone Express 27-2-1869

County Court

Monday, February 22nd: Before W.C. Scott Esq.

Edward Moat v C. & A. Dickenson: This was a claim of £2 4s. 9d. for work, labour and materials. Mr. J. Minter appeared for the defendants, who admitted the work was done, but disputed their liability to pay for it.

Edward Moat, the plaintiff, being sworm, said: A young man of the name of Back asked me if I could repair a trap, and on me saying “Yes” he told me to come and see Mr. Dickenson about it. I believe Back was connected in some way with the Dickensons, and he said if I would go, then Mr. Dickenson would be there and we could agree about the price. I told him I could not go then. Back said he had done some part of it. I afterwards went and saw Mr. Austin Dickenson, and he asked me how much it would cost, and I said about £2.

By Mr. Minter: I did not do the work for Back. I have not sent in a bill to Mr. Back, nor have I asked him to pay. I did not tell him I would charge him trade price for the work. I have had a conversation with Mr. Charles Dickenson upon it. He did not say he had no objection to pay what`s fair; he said he would pay 30s., as he considered that a fair price, and I said “I will take £2”, which would barely pay journeyman`s wages.

Mr. Minter said the plaintiff  had no right to summon the two, as the dog cart was the property of Mr. C. Dickenson, and it was hardly likely that he would come here to dispute such a small amount if he considered himself liable to pay. The man Back is a coach builder, and he owed Mr. Charles Dickenson a sum of £7 or £8, and when applied to for the money, he said he was unable to pay, but he would come and do his dog cart up. He supposed that Back, finding himself unable to execute the work, employed the plaintiff. There was a conversation with plaintiff about the price, and Mr. Dickenson said he thought 30s. would be a fair price. He asked to obtain information as to the value of the work done, as it would have to be deducted from the total amount. Back is willing to pay, and he has offered to pay it.

The Plaintiff: Back has told me he would never pay it.

Mr. Back, sworn, said: I was indebted to Mr. Dickenson in the sum of £7 or £8, and I undertook to repair the dog cart as a set-off. I took the job to do from Mr. C. Dickenson. The plaintiff has applied to me for payment of the money for the work he did. He has asked me three or four times for it, and he wrote to me at Ashford about it. He said he would charge me trade price, 30s., or a little over. I offered him 15s. of it in the train this morning.

By His Honour: I could not do the work myself. When he applied for the money he was out of employment.

Mr. C. Dickenson, sworn and examined, said: I never gave any direction to the plaintiff, and we had no conversation till after the work was done.

His Honour thought it a pity that this case should be brought before him; it ought to have been settled out of court. He must nonsuit the plaintiff.

The plaintiff said he received his instructions from Mr. Austin Dickenson.

His Honour said he must nonsuit the plaintiff, who, of course, could claim the money from Back.

Southeastern Gazette 1-3-1869

County Court

This court was held at the Town Hall, on Monday, before W. C. Scott, Esq.

Edward Moat v. Dickenson mid Co.—The plaintiff claimed £2 4s. 9d. for repairing a dog cart belonging to the defendants. Mr. Minter appeared for the defendant, C. Dickenson.

The plaintiff said that a young man named Back asked him if lie could repair a dog cart, and on agreeing to do so he said if he came to Mr. Dickenson’s they could agree about it. Plaintiff at first refused, but afterwards went and saw Mr. Austin Dickenson, and told him the job would be about £2.

By Mr. Minter: He (plaintiff) did not do the work for Mr. Back, nor had he sent the bill to him nor asked him to pay. Had told him that he would charge trade price. Witness had a conversation with Mr. Charles Dickenson about the payment, and he said he considered 30s. a fair price and he would pay that.

Mr. Minter said the plaintiff had been mistaken in the ownership of the dog cart, for it was solely the property of Mr. Dickenson, to whom Back owed a sum of £7 or £8; and being applied to for payment he said he would come and do the trap up for him.

Mr. Back was then called, and deposed that he owed Mr. Dickenson £7 or £8, and as a set off he undertook to do up the dog cart and engaged the plaintiff to help in the work. The plaintiff had applied to him for the money several times, and he wrote to witness at Ashford.

Plaintiff said the charge was 30s. or a little more, and witness had offered him 15s. of the money.

Mr. Dickenson having been examined and proved the facts stated by Mr. Minter, his Honour nonsuited the plaintiff.
 
Folkestone Chronicle 19-2-1870

Tuesday February 15th: Before the Mayor and R.W. Boarer Esq.

James Wilson, of Foord, was brought up in custody, charged with entering the premises of Messrs. Dickenson, brewers, of Tontine Street, and stealing therein two fowls, value 4s.

John Hobday deposed: I am in the employ of Messrs. Dickenson. I know the prisoner by sight. Last evening about six o`clock I saw him on the prosecutor`s premises at the back of the cart lodge in the brewery yard. He had no business there. I was in the stable without a light. Fowls are kept at the back of the cart lodge, and hearing a noise I went to see, and found [prisoner wit a brown hen in his hand. He dropped it and turned round saying”The old hen flew at me and has bit my thumb”. I said “Oh, all right”. I then went into the brewery, and the prisoner went into the Tap. Afterwards I found the cock produced lying dead with his neck broken., just where the prisoner had been standing. The hen was also on the ground, instead of being on the roost about ten feet high. I gave information of the robbery to my masters, and prisoner was given into custody at the Tap about ten o`clock. The value of the birds is about 4s.

Cross-examined: You had no business in the cart house.

Re-examined: The last time I saw the cock alive was about one o`clock, before I went to the Camp.

P.C. Ovenden deposed that from information received he apprehended prisoner in front of the Brewery Tap about a quarter past ten yesterday evening, cautioned him and charged him with attempting to steal two fowls belonging to Messrs. C. and A. Dickenson. He said he went into the cart house, a hen flew at him, and bit his thumb. I brought him to the station, and there he said he was innocent of the charge. I searched him and found no marks on either thumb. A small brown and white feather dropped from the knee of his trousers.

Prisoner elected to be tried by the Bench, and pleaded Not Guilty. He said he was at work at the Pavilion ice house till four o`clock. He then went into the Brewery Tap for some beer, and before dark he went out into the cart house, as he had often done before, and while there the hen flew towards him. He put up his hand to fend her off, and it bit his thumb. The cock he knew nothing about. The place was open, and if anyone had wished to steal the fowls, he must have been foolish to attempt it then, for he would have been sure to have been found out. He had always lived in Folkestone, and borne a good character.

The Bench decided to send the prisoner to Dover for one month`s hard labour, the Mayor remarking that had it not been the first time he had appeared before them, he would have had three months.

Folkestone Express 19-2-1870

Tuesday, February 15th: Before The Mayor and R.W. Boarer Esq.

James Wilson was charged with stealing two fowls the previous day.

John Hobday, in the employ of Messrs. Dickenson, said: I knew the prisoner by sight. About six o`clock I saw him on the prosecutor`s premises. He was at the back of the cart house in the brewery yard. He had no business there. I was in the stable. I had no candle. I heard our fowls making a noise; they roost at the back of this house. I rushed to the back of the lodge, and the prisoner was there with a brown hen in his hand. He dropped it, and said “The old hen flew at me and has bit my thumb”. I said “Oh, all right” and let him go. He then went into the Tap, and Mr. Poole`s man went with a candle and found the bird produced, lying dead; the hen was lying alongside. We have only one brown hen. I gave information to Messrs. Dickenson, and they gave him into custody. The fowls are valued at about 4s. I saw the cock bird alive at one o`clock.

By prisoner: No-one has any right there except those working at the brewery.

P.C. Ovenden said: I apprehended the prisoner in front of the Brewery Tap about quarter past ten last night. I cautioned and charged him. He said he went there for a natural purpose; a hen flew at him and bit his thumb. At the station he said he was innocent of the charge. There was nothing the matter with either of his thumbs. A small feather dropped from his knees.

Prisoner elected for the Magistrates to decide the charge. He pleaded Not Guilty, and said he had been at work in the ice house at the Pavilion. He went to this place for a certain purpose, when the hen flew against him and he struck at it.

The Bench came to the decision to give him a month`s hard labour at Dover gaol.

Folkestone Express 9-11-1872

On Tuesday night someone entered Mr. Dickenson`s brewery, Tontine Street, and stole therefrom a saccharometer (leaving the weights), the brewing books, and other articles. It is supposed that the thief entered the brewery by a coal grating in Millbay.
 
Folkestone Chronicle 4-12-1875

Advertisement

Burton Brewery, Tontine Street

Messrs. Tomblin & Co. beg to inform the Nobility, Gentry, and Inhabitants of Folkestone and Neighbourhood that they have disposed of the above Brewery to Messrs. A. LANGTON & Co., who will in future carry it on, and who will collect the book debts owing to the late firm.

Messrs. Tomblin & Co. desire to express their thanks to their numerous customers for their kind patronage, and trust that the same may be continued to their successors.

Folkestone, 30th October, 1875
 
Folkestone Herald 27-12-1930

Felix

Here is a tribute to Folkestone water, and incidentally, beer. The present generation can hardly realise that there were three breweries in Folkestone, namely the Gun Brewery (adjoining Mr. Walter`s upholstery establishment in Cheriton Road, and the Shakespeare Hotel), also the Burton Brewery in Tontine Street, in close proximity to one of Messrs. Gosnold and Co.`s drapery establishment, and another near High Street steps (long since disappeared) in Tontine Street was once in the possession of Messrs. C. and A. Dickenson. It is quite evident this firm believed in Folkestone water for the purposes of brewing. Here is an extract from a circular the firm issued three score years and ten ago: “We beg to inform the public that Folkestone water, as analysed by Professor Taylor, of Guy`s Hospital, is devoid of all deleterious matter, possessing qualities beneficial to general health; thus confirming the well known fact that Folkestone is one of the most healthy places in England. Its water contains every requisite for brewing Ales and Stouts. Thus they have entered into arrangements with Mr. Watson Martin, son of the eminent manager and brewer of Messrs. Ind, Coope & Co., brewers, Burton on Trent, who was for some time Brewer at Messrs. Bass & Co.”. The firm further declare that “they will use their utmost endeavour to supply the Folkestone public with Ales and Stout not to be surpassed by any brewers in the county”. And the pre-war prices! These are remarkable reading in the light of the present day, namely “Mild beer, 1s. per gallon, ditto ale, 1s. 6d., strong ale, 1s. 6d., pale ale, 1s., porter 1s., double brown stout 1s.”. The only relic of the Burton Brewery, Tontine Street, is the name it bequeathed to the Brewery Tap, over whose destinies another Professor Taylor presides. The premises of the old Cheriton Road brewery and its site, are, I notice, to be disposed of. These once belonged to the late Mr. Alderman Ham Tite, who passed away in his 90th year.

Note: Dickenson`s was not the small brewery mentioned at the bottom of the High Street steps, but the Burton Brewery, Tontine Street.

Eagle 1930s



Folkestone Herald 15-11-1930
Obituary

The funeral of the late Mrs. Emma Burchett, wife of Mr. Frank Burchett, of the Eagle, Guildhall Street, took place at the Folkestone Cemetery on Friday of last week.

Alexandra Tavern 1930s



Folkestone Herald 27-9-1930

Obituary

We regret to record the death of Mr. John Marsh, aged 71, for 25 years the licensee of the Alexandra Tavern, Bridge Street, which occurred at his residence on Sunday after a painful illness patiently borne. Mr. Marsh was a Folkestonian, having lived in the town practically all his life. Previous to taking the Alexandra Tavern, he held a licence at The Wellington, Harbour Street and at Alkham. He was a blacksmith by trade and had been employed in that capacity by the Earl of Radnor for about 30 years. Mr. Marsh was very well-known in the town although of a quiet disposition.

He leaves a widow, three sons, seven daughters, and 23 grandchildren. Early next year Mr. and Mrs. Marsh would have celebrated their golden wedding. Much sympathy will be felt for the relatives in their sad bereavement.

The funeral took place very quietly at the Folkestone Cemetery (Hawkinge).

Folkestone Express 11-10-1930

Wednesday 8th October: Before Alderman R.G. Wood, Miss A.M. Hunt, Mr. F. Seager, Mr. G.I. Swoffer, and Mr. W. Smith.

Richard Horace Marsh applied for the transfer of the licence of the Alexandra Tavern, Bridge Street, held by John Marsh, now deceased.

The Magistrates` Clerk said it was quite a small house.

Applicant said he had a wife, who would be living there, and would manage it. He would be carrying on his work of omnibus driver.

The application was granted.
 

Folkestone Herald 11-10-1930

Wednesday, October 8th: Before Alderman R.G. Wood, Mr. G.I. Swoffer, Miss A.M. Hunt, Mr. F. Seager, and Mr. W. Smith.

Richard Horace Marsh applied for the transfer of the licence of the Alexandra Tavern, Bridge Street, Folkestone, which held an off licence, from his father, John Marsh, deceased, to himself. The late licensee had recently died, and the widow was protected in respect of the house. The applicant was an omnibus driver.

The application was granted.