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Monday 12 September 2016

British Lion 1980s - 1990s

Photo from Folkestone Herald



Folkestone Herald 11-4-1986

Local News

A unique chapter in Folkestone’s history ended yesterday (Thursday) when pub landlady Joan Hourahane said goodbye to one of the town’s oldest pubs, the famous British Lion.

Joan, who has spent the last 38 years tending to the drinking habits of the garrison, port and town, has been a frontline witness to Folkestone’s changing fortunes. When she took over the 15th Century inn at The Bayle with her late husband, ex-RSM Gerry, beer was eight old pennies a pint (about 4p). Today, lunchtime drinkers spend £5 on food and tipple, the equivalent of a week’s wage in 1957, when Joan and Gerry moved from Sandgate`s Clarendon pub to the centre of the town. In those days it was a dull and dismal pub with blackout curtains from World War II still hanging from the window frames. Now drinkers enjoy a steak pie and potatoes, washed down with real beer, in a traditional setting. And this seems to be the way the customers like it. A decade ago they got up a successful petition to thwart brewery plans to modernise the pub. And as such it has enjoyed a special place among the pubs of Folkestone.

The British Lion certainly has a special place in history, for author Charles Dickens and painter William Turner were customers in the days before licensing laws and drinking up time inhibited the day-to-day imbiber. And it would not be misleading to say that both great artists would find the old inn much the same as in their day. It certainly remains one of Folkestone`s pubs of character.

One feature that will disappear with Joan`s departure are two major items of seasonal fare – the famous pie and potatoes. For over twenty years these two items have warmed and stabilised the tummies of beer drinkers during winter months, and are devoured eagerly by those who eschew today`s trends of a light lunch.

But Joan is modest when praise is offered for the pub`s fame and fortune. “It`s the customers who make a pub”, she says. “The pub has terrific character, but that`s due mainly to the customers. There is not really another pub like it in Folkestone. In the old days women seldom came in on their own. That`s all changed now. And youngsters are more plentiful. I think the younger generation appreciate it as much as anybody else, without the need for juke boxes and fruit machines”. Joan has seen the character of the town change too. “Unfortunately we have become a bit cut off from the town since the precinct was put down. And until a few years ago many more businesses operated from the town centre. That`s all changed”, says Joan.

At a surprise party last week the popular landlady was presented with a silver tray inscribed with a lion. She was also given a tumble druer, an automatic camera, a Teasmade and a bouquet. Joan, who has moved into a flat nearby in The Bayle, said as she left “Of course I`ll be back – it`s now my local”.

Folkestone Herald 7-11-1986

Advertising Feature

When publicans Ken and Lorraine Hollett first visited Folkestone`s famous British Lion, it was love at first sight. And they vowed; if the ancient inn on The Bayle, steeped in history and atmosphere, became theirs, it should stay just the way it was. They have kept that promise. And this week, six months after taking over, they celebrated the occasion with a reception at the pub, one of the town`s oldest licensed premises, to prove it.

The British Lion, a symbol of all that`s great in Britain, dates back to the 15th century. And from the chapters of history it can boast a place of its own. Charles Dickens, perhaps this country`s most famous author, used the pub as his local while living in Folkestone as he wrote Little Dorritt. As a mark of respect to the great man of letters, the pub`s quaint snug bar, ever popular with those seeking a place for a quiet or discreet conversation, is now adorned with mementoes of his work.

But enough of the past. What of present? Today the pub offers traditional ale, and tradi­tional food. And the new decorations and furnish­ings act as a seal of intent that the 400-year-old hostelry will remain in the traditional mould. Lorraine has spent many hours researching the history of the inn.

Apart from the range of beer and lager, draught or bottled - there are plenty of soft drinks too - the home now offers an ex­tensive menu aimed at the lunchtime trade, plus wi­nes and spirits - chilled nine if desired. Kitchen facilities have been improved in a bid to offer a wider choice to office workers and lunch­time drinkers. All the traditional dis­hes, homemade and with fresh vegetables will make an appearance on the menu card.

Folkestone Herald 20-11-1987

Local News

Beer drinkers in Folkestone have passed a bitter milestone in pint prices. This week the Good Pub Guide book was frothed up over Kent regulars digging deeper into their pockets than most of Britain`s pub-goers. The guide criticises a one third increase in Surrey, Sussex and Kent during the year “pressing towards the £1-a-pint barrier which London has passed”. But some pubs in Folkestone broke the barrier up to two years ago and finding a brew in the area for less is a problem.

Folkestone landlords this week criticised the guide for being out of touch and blamed high rates plus brewery increases for the pricey cost of their pints.

Geoff Gosford, landlord of the Lifeboat in The Durlocks, said “Prices are quite high, but so are the overheads. Folkestone rates are the same as some London boroughs. Our beers can be expensive, but it is all real ale. We recently had the legendary Conqueror here as a guest ale. It was £1.28 a pint but three pints of that beer was worth nine of any other. I haven`t had one complaint about my prices”.

Eileen Lewis, landlady of the Guildhall on The Bayle (£1 a pint) said “Some pubs may take advantage and raise prices higher. But the majority are very conscious of the cost of beer to their customers. It is not publicans clamouring for expensive beer, it is breweries”.

Ken Holletts, landlord of the British Lion (£1 a pint) said “I have not raised the price of beer since becoming the landlord. All increases have been imposed by the brewery. Our prices are reasonable, and as cheap as you`ll find in the town centre”.

Black Bull landlady Maureen Coles in Canterbury Road (prices again in the £1 range) said “Rates and electricity and so on are all expensive and brewery increases take their toll”.

A spokesman for Whitbread, a major brewery supplying Folkestone, said “Beer prices are cheaper in other parts of the country, but Folkestone is no different, really, to most other parts of the South East”.


Folkestone Herald 5-2-1988

Inquest

Detectives and a Home Office pathologist were called in to investigate a suspected murder after a man died in hospital of multiple head injuries. Father-of-three Kenneth Huntley was so badly injured he could not speak or communicate with his son or doctors. At his inquest, a coroner recorded a verdict of ac­cidental death after he heard it was more likely Mr. Huntley was injured from falling downstairs drunk. Some 34 witnesses, including several pub landlords in Folkestone, were questioned by police and were called to give evidence. The hearing was told that Mr. Huntley was a regular in at least three pubs in the town and often drunk to excess.

Landlord of the British Lion, The Bayle, Folkestone, Kenneth Hollett, said “Mr. Huntley would come into the bar in the early morning and mid-evenings about three or four times a week”.

Another landlord, Geoffrey Gosford, of The Lifeboat Inn, said “Mr. Huntley was not the most popular of customers. He drank very heavily and occasionally I saw him the worse for drink, but he never caused any trouble”.

Neighbours of Mr. Huntley’s at Bradstone Road, Folkestone, said they often heard him screaming to himself, and several had seen him drunk or slumped outside his house. They claimed he had become worse since his wife left him.

One of the last people to see Mr. Huntley before he was injured last September was a customer at the British Lion, Carol Edge, of Connaught Road, Folkestone. She told the inquest “I was driving along and I saw Mr. Huntley coming down Grace Hill. He appeared very drunk and was staggering. That was about 10.30 p.m.”

The same night a neighbour of Mr. Huntley, Mrs. Beryl Davies, said she heard a scuffling noise coming from the basement of his house, but she was frightened and did not want to get involved.

When Huntley’s son, Alan, went to check on his father the next morning, he found him lying in bed in pain with a black eye and marks on his face. Hours later his speech was “unintelligible” and the doctor was called. Tests in hospital showed Mr. Huntley had suffered a fractured skull and collarbone, fractured all his ribs ex­cept one, and had severe bruising. “He never explain­ed how he got his injuries”, said Alan Huntley.

Kenneth Huntley, a former chief warden at Hythe Rangers, died of a heart attack the next morning. Despite the circumstances surrounding his death police were not called in until the following Tuesday.

At the inquest Home Office pathologist, Doctor Peter Venezis, who carried out tests on the body, said “The injuries on Mr. Huntley are consistent with a heavy fell. If he was drunk, he would have fallen heavier, and this might explain why his injuries were such”.

Folkestone Herald 2-9-1988

Local News

Great Ormond Street Hospital’s much-publicised Wishing Well Appeal became £1,000 better off this week as regulars at the British Lion pub hauled in their collection. Anne Macmillan and Karen Jones were part of a fund-raising team in a 24-hour games marathon at the pub in The Bayle, Folkestone. On Tuesday, they handed over their £1,000 sponsorship money to Barclay’s Bank manager Mr Ian Keay to be passed on to the Wishing Well Appeal.


Folkestone Herald 18-1-1991

Local News

Lunchtime bar takings vanished from the till of the British Lion pub, in The Bayle, Folkestone, on Sunday, after landlord Brian Clayson had seen his last customers off the premises.

He believes the thief came back to take £250 when he left the bar for a few minutes.


Folkestone Herald 29-1-1993

Local News

Furious pub landlord Brian Clayson has hit out at Folkestone Magistrates` refusal to allow him an extension to celebrate the life of Scottish poet Robert Burns.

“We had a great time, but all the same I`m really unhappy with the Court`s decision”, said Mr. Clayson, landlord at the British Lion, at The Bayle, Folkestone, after the party on Monday night. “At 11 p.m., when the pub was absolutely full and there was a great atmosphere, I had to tell the customers it was time to pack up”. Most of the customers were Scots. Mr. Clayson, 54, who runs the pub with his wife Rena, said he wanted a one and a half hour extension for the Burns Night celebration. But, he said, three Magistrates deliberated for a few minutes over his application and then turned it down. He wasn`t given a reason for the refusal. He has held a Burns Night at the pub for two successive years, without an extension. The parties ended at normal hours, “They were both very successful and there was no trouble at them. It went so well last year my customers asked me to apply for an extension this time. I was shocked when the Court turned it down. After this, I don`t think I`ll apply for one next year”. He added “I can only think this is such a quiet little nook the Magistrates don`t want rowdies to get a chance of spoiling the area. But we`ve never had trouble here, and I`m sure an extension wouldn`t have led to any problems”.

William Taylor, Chairman of the Folkestone Licensed Victuallers` Association, said the Magistrates may have turned down the application because they didn`t view it as a special occasion. “I must say, in my calendar a Burns Night would be a special occasion, though I do see the Court`s point of view. There are all sorts of anniversaries every week, so where do you draw the line? Magistrates do have guidelines, but it seems to depend very much on the opinion of the Bench on that particular day. Some might see an application as special and others might differ”.


Folkestone Herald 2-2-1995

Local News

Plans to extend the British Lion pub in The Bayle, Folkestone, have been thrown out by Shepway planners. Pub owners, Pubmaster Ltd., wanted to build an extension at the back of the pub and use the ground floor of the next door listed building, number eight, The Bayle, for storage. Councillors approved the application for the extension, but voted unanimously to refuse listed building consent for the changes because alterations to No. 8 would be detrimental to the listed building.


Folkestone Herald 9-2-1995

Local News

The landlord of a 15th century inn has warned the pub could close because plans to update it have been thrown out. Pubmaster Ltd., owners of the Grade II listed British Lion pub in The Bayle, Folkestone, wanted to build a rear extension and use the ground floor of next door, 8, The Bayle, for storage. Although planning permission was granted, Councillors voted unanimously against giving listed building consent for the changes.

Now landlord Brian Matthews, 59, and his partner Sandra White, 33, who lashed out £25,000 for the tenancy of the pub last September, say they may leave because they are not making money. “It is quite possible we will move on”, said Mr. Andrews. “We are finding out the grounds for refusal and whether they were enough. We may appeal against the decision, but if not I shall leave and Pubmaster may shut the pub if they can`t get another tenant”. Mr. Matthews, who has been a publican for 22 years, said he only took on the British Lion because of plans to extend it. “The Magistrates and environmental health officers approved the plans and planning officers recommended the plans be approved, but now it has been thrown out by a bunch of amateurs”, he said. “The pub has been in this state for ages and we can`t work in it; we`re not making any money. It has a poor drainage system, outside toilets and an upstairs kitchen – it`s all wrong and needs to be brought up to date”.

Shepway planning manager, Phil Kirby, said Councillors had visited the pub for a site meeting and had been concerned that work had already started inside number eight. “They had no reasons to refuse planning permission, but Councillors felt the proposed work would affect the character of the listed buildings and they are not happy about that”, he said. “The concern with number eight was that some work had been done without getting listed building consent. When people take on a listed building they must be aware of the responsibility that goes with it and any work must be considered by the local authority before it is done”.

Mr. Matthews said the work had only been done to tidy up the site. “It was a real mess and derelict; all I did was clear out all the rotten wood inside number eight, which has not altered the place at all”, he said. “It has been empty for 32 years and is derelict. No-one complained about that, but they complain when we do something about it. We planned to spend about £15,000 on improvements. We can`t make a living here as it is; it`s a ridiculous situation”.

Pubmaster regional manager, Jeffrey Hill, said alternative plans were being drawn up and would be submitted to the Council soon. “We are submitting a further plan to accommodate the planning committee`s wishes and we hope we will eventually get planning permission without going to appeal”, he said. “We have written to the District Council to say we will reinstate number eight as it was and we regret what has happened. Mr. Matthews is quite right that he cannot operate as it is, but local objections need to be considered and met as much as possible”.
 
Photo from Folkestone Herald


Folkestone Herald 12-11-1998

Local News

A landlord`s life was saved by a smoke alarm when fire broke out in the bar area of his Folkestone pub. Two fire crews, led by Sub-Officer Richard McMunn, were called out to the British Lion on The Bayle just before midnight on Monday evening. It took them an hour and a half to extinguish the blaze.

Landlord Brian Matthews said the pub would be closed for a while, but could not estimate how long. It seemed to have started in a bin, but he was not sure how. “What I can say for certain is that the firemen were tremendous”, he said.

A spokesman for Folkestone firemen said “The early detection of the blaze by a smoke alarm saved a life and prevented it spreading to the first floor. Once again, the importance of fire detection in the home is emphasised”.

Half the bar was badly damaged.




Photos from Folkestone Herald
 
 
 

Watercolour by Stuart Gresswell (ex Raglan and Guildhall) 
 

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